BMW sell their soul

[e30guydownunder]

Give me 1 advantage FWD has over RWD

Granted BMW have RWD chassis assembly techniques down pat, but generally speaking a FWD car is easy to produce from a packaging point of view. Cabin structure with front rails and inner guards sticking out, much like an E36, engine, gearbox, drivetrain, front suspension all goes in with one smooth motion, bolt on front panels JOB DONE.

Arguably it is also easier for the engineers to make the engine package roll under the floor pan in the incident of a Front Ender, the whole package rolls under the floor, a much harder task when the gearbox resides halfway under the floor. Making it safer in some respects.

Not saying that I support the idea of BMW making FWD a mainstream thought process however. RWD forever!

[1q2w3e4r]

Give me 1 advantage FWD has over RWD

The floor in the boot won't fall out from the epic power BMW's standard cars (outside the M's) come with from the factory?

Sorry.. Couldn't resist, you did ask

[ParaBul]

Give me 1 advantage FWD has over RWD

Manufacturability.

Packaging.

Efficiency.

Or did you mean from a driver's perspective? One of the places I lived in Brisbane I would have to turn right across a busy road. I found it was easier to accelerate a Magna through a small gap in oncoming traffic than a VR or VS Commodore. The Magna seemed quite happy to just pull, while the Commodores wanted to lift the inside wheel & spin. Easier in the Magna.

[DCR]

Of course I meant from a Drivers perspective.

[djs325]

-Escaping an "OH FU*K" moment in a MINI Challenge car is a sh*t load easier than a BMW - just steer straight-ish,plant the throttle and she's apples!

Give me 1 advantage FWD has over RWD

Of course I meant from a Drivers perspective.

[shitbmxrider]

Hahahaahahahaha.

BMW are a company, and are as willing as every other company to 'sell there soul' in the chase of the allmighty dollar/market share...

I can't say I am really that surprised...

[Sherweeeny]

Show me where you got that figure from. Every single 1 series owner I know (and there is at least 6) bought the car for the very reason that it had a good powered motor, lightish and WAS RWD

http://wot.motortrend.com/6656763/au...ive/index.html

I don't. My arguemnt is that the Mini was already an entity that BMW now sell. They didnt invent the Mini.

yes but they wont be fwd in the models they currently have. it will be in the next mini sized model which is completely new

Give me 1 advantage FWD has over RWD

besides the fact that it is much safer for the general masses?

[b-izadfar]

Show me where you got that figure from. Every single 1 series owner I know (and there is at least 6) bought the car for the very reason that it had a good powered motor, lightish and WAS RWD

I don't. My arguemnt is that the Mini was already an entity that BMW now sell. They didnt invent the Mini.


Give me 1 advantage FWD has over RWD

I like that word. lightish.
Is that some kind half denial attempt at the 1s "light" image but overweight figure.

Here's more hope to focus on lighter cars in the coming future. Because every brand out there is churning overweight heaps regardless of drive type.

[1M5]

http://wot.motortrend.com/6656763/au...ive/index.html

Nice burn.

[1M5]

http://wot.motortrend.com/6656763/au...ive/index.html

Nice burn.

[Flyingphil172]

how exactly do you guys expect them to make a car the size of a mini and have it RWD?

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Very easily.

The Mitsibishi i fits in between the original and new Mini for length (buthas more interior space that both) and is RWD.

The original Fiat 500 is RWD.

Smarts are all RWD.

To name a few..

[eki]

since when did bmw's have souls?

On the other hand, all it comes down to is profit making. BMW don't really give a shit about making cars people enjoy, they make cars that people will buy. This whole Joy commercials that are going around are just a marketing gimmick to encourage 99% of people that if you buy a bmw it will bring you excitement driving it (such as most likely can be seen here with quite a few passive RWD lovers). Don't get me wrong, we have owned a variety of bimmers and they're fantastic cars. But by the end of the day, all it comes down to is profit.

Also, your question what advantages FWD has over RWD? In the everyday world of customers. None. To the everyday person they would not notice the difference if they followed the speed limits. But if you wanted to get technical i suppose you could say ice and slippery conditions could pose an advantage for FWD cars. But even then, you'd have to be almost idiotic to take corners as fast as possible to be able to differentiate a difference.

On a race track, difference, yes, in real life, no.

[Sherweeeny]

Very easily.

The Mitsibishi i fits in between the original and new Mini for length (buthas more interior space that both) and is RWD.

The original Fiat 500 is RWD.

Smarts are all RWD.

To name a few..

no offence phil, but your posts used to be a lot better than this.
mitsubishi i - wheres the engine?
original fiat 500, where was the engine?
smart- wheres the engine?

[Flyingphil172]

Got a problem with mid or rear mounted engines?

If BMW wants a chance to stand out from the small hatch market, here's it is.

[Sherweeeny]

Got a problem with mid or rear mounted engines?

If BMW wants a chance to stand out from the small hatch market, here's it is.

ok